Perfint with its MAXIO system goes down
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Perfint started with its MAXIO system with high hopes and a nice design.
Perfint started with its MAXIO system with high hopes and a nice design.
However, in a recent article its founder discussed honestly the reasons and decisions that led to the shut down of the company despite the $30+ million investment it collected.
"Perfint
Healthcare read the market wrong and then continued misreading it
by Seema
Singh
The top
floor of a residential building is hardly a place to expect bots. Yet it has
been one for a decade, making robotic arms, not humanoids.
For a
visitor, a sensor-rigged, hard-wired sort of entrance would be in order you
think. Instead, parched potted plants, some twenty of them which were meant to
brighten up the passage to Perfint Healthcare’s office in Chennai, greet you.
It is peak summer but the leaves have nearly shed. The workspace inside is
unusually quiet for an early Friday evening in July. The atmospherics is
telling.
So are the
facts.
“The last
two years have been very tough, barely survival,” says Nandakumar Subburaman,
when nudged to talk about the business. “We are three to four years behind what
we had planned to be or liked to be. We had a setback; we had to reverse all
sales, payback all the money that banks gave. That drained the system.”
As
co-founder and chief executive, Nandakumar sounds confident as ever but
occasional whiffs of mea culpas creep into the conversation. The pivot
his experienced team made in 2006, from an engineering research and development
services company to a robotics product company, has gone awry.
Started in
2005, Perfint had checked all the right boxes. An ambitious and cutting-edge
healthcare product startup staffed by an all ex-GE founding team targeting the
growing field of cancer treatment. Its promise was robotic devices that reduce
cost, enhance precision and get more radiologists to do minimally invasive
treatment of tumors. Interventional radiology was slated to be big.
The all-star
founding team was a hit with investors who saw the potential of locally
developed robotics products from India where imports make 80 percent of the
medical technology (medtech) market. In no time it was seen as the poster child
of medtech startups, drawing glowing news coverage and even awards.
But then,
reality set in.
Today, after
years of iterations and spending nearly $33 million in venture capital (and at
least Rs 9.95 crore in soft loans from the Department of Biotechnology),
Perfint has neither the topline nor a passionate following for its products
among doctors. To the extent that the company is now looking up to India’s
creaking public healthcare system as its savior even as nearly half its
employees have left or been laid off.
What went
wrong?
The premise
itself
When
Nandakumar, a finance professional by training, assembled a team, he wanted to
address a so-called gap in image-guided diagnostics. The ambitious founders
chose to build a minimally invasive robotic arm (stereotactic, to be precise)
that would, using computed tomography or CT, position a needle at the precise
point on the body for drug delivery in cancer or pain management.
Their first
device, called PIGA, was ready in 2008 but even before it could be widely
adopted, Perfint figured out “it was not the right device”.
Why? Because
doctors were not enthused about having large positioning equipment in their CT
room.
Since they
realized they couldn’t do much about the size, in their next iteration they
instead narrowed the focus to oncology, the treatment of tumours. PIGA’s
successor was MAXIO, also a robotic arm. But instead of positioning and
inserting a needle, this one took a 3-dimensional view before deciding where
and how much of energy to deliver.
The space it
was targeting now was interventional radiology.
If a
radiologist is a consultant’s consultant whose job ends with looking at images
and diagnosing, an intervention radiologist is a super specialist who delivers
the treatment. Less than five percent of radiologists in India fall in this
category. Which meant the potential market for MAXIO was very small, but could
be expanded to include other radiologists.
Furthermore,
while MAXIO was an advancement over PIGA, it still remained a “planner”. In
other words, it simply didn’t have a generator to deliver the energy for the
burning of tumours, or ablation. Perfint’s business model did not allow for
providing needles and other consumables and that eventually became a tail -- a
bulky one at that, weighing more than 200kgs -- that wanted to wag the dog.
At around
Rs.1 crore, MAXIO also came at five times the price of an energy generator.
Doctors
began to ignore it, preferring instead to poke their patients a few times
rather than adding another expensive and bulky variable in their workflow
merely to plan their needle positioning.
“Even those
who bought one device would warn us not to come again for a year or two. There
was just not enough use,” recalls a former sales executive, who requested not
to be identified because he doesn’t want to spoil his relationship with the
team.
It was an
early brush with oblivion.
Nandakumar
gets rhetorical. “Why did we not know this in the beginning? In GE we were only
in imaging, not in therapy space. If we had combined our product with
consumables - needle, energy generator, etc., maybe it’d have worked.”
Scrambling
didn’t help
To make
matters worse, the team, in a mad dash to grow, began to design and develop
multiple products with many variants. “I was not sure how we would justify the
value proposition, we spread too thin; approvals were needed for each one, many
of which we were not able to finish and take to market,” says a former senior R&D
executive.
In the
absence of a domestic regulator, Indian companies are on back foot in any case.
They have to seek approval overseas where customers as well as regulators lack
confidence in them because if ever there is a product recall, there’s no one in
the home country to penalize the company.
Meanwhile,
MAXIO’s design itself was confounding. Doctors found it worked well for
pinpointing tumours of the liver; somewhat well for those of the lungs; but did
not address the chest at all. Which meant doctors would need to move their
patients from the CT room to the ultrasound room for even small procedures - a
significant disruption.
To be sure,
Perfint is trying to solve a difficult problem.
Tumours,
which are semi-solid in nature, are supported by fluids and move, sometimes as
much as 5 cm, when a patient gets on the couch for radiation. On top of it,
ablation, which is often suitable for tumors of a certain size, less than 3 cm,
is one among many treatment choices before the patient as is the robotic arm one
among many technologies.
A former
senior sales executive remembers a customer in South Asia telling him, “Your
product is good but it doesn’t work all the time.” He then gave the analogy of
a safety device for a high rise jumper. “If the device protects you seven out
of 10 times, but leaves you three times unprotected would you jump wearing it?”
Soon after,
when MAXIO entered the market, in 2012, some senior executives suggested “let’s
fix the product and then launch”. But Nandakumar was not in favour of pulling
back even though a few in the senior management challenged his decisions.
“Even when
revenues on paper showed Rs. 22 crore, the product was not being used. I said
let’s fix it or else they are not going to pay you,” said the executive quoted
above.
Turns out he
was right, Perfint had to reverse sales in the financial year 2013-14, when it
reported Rs 44.87 crores in revenues with a net loss of Rs 17.27 crores. (This
is the latest financial data available with the Ministry of Corporate Affairs.)
First mover
disadvantage?
When doctors
in India did not show interest in testing its technology to generate
performance data for regulatory approval, Perfint chose to go overseas. It was
a swift decision because right from the beginning the team aspired to build a
product for the global market.
The
unfortunate reality is that there aren’t many teaching hospitals in India that
a medtech company can partner with for product development.
Very
quickly, as clinical sites were developed in Europe and Australia, the sales
strategy turned outwards as well. Regulatory approvals were sought in far-flung
countries like Brazil and sales offices set up without fully ascertaining what
the market was all about. Again, as a slap on its strategy, Brazil turned out
to be an ultrasound-driven region.
The
cautionary joke internally would go as - “we are from GE but we should not be
working like GE”
And in true
GE fashion, an event was organized in Singapore, much before the MAXIO launch.
“To create hype”. (The cautionary joke internally would go as - “we are from GE
but we should not be working like GE”.)
In a
frenzied flurry, Perfint entered more than 20 countries and ended up having
just one or two installations to show for it.
Did its
venture capitalists push the team?
Though Nandakumar
says all blame lies with the core team, sources close to the company, many of
them “disappointed” with the way things are turning out, say “they became
slaves of the investors because the latter had pumped so much money”.
Expensive
experimentation ensued for a while, primarily because there was much venture
capital to go around. Sources also say Norwest Venture’s $11 million infusion
in January 2013 came in a single tranche.
In keeping
with the spirit of venture-fueled ambition, Perfint’s claims started running
ahead of its achievements. Way ahead.
In February
2012, in the freewheeling, quasi public space that Twitter is, the company
tweeted “Perfint sees revenue triple to $5 in million in 2012”.
In reality,
it was nearly half of the claim.
In October
2012, when this writer spoke to Nandakumar for an article in Forbes India magazine,
three months after the MAXIO launch in Delhi, he was on a high. “We are
preparing to launch MAXIO in the US in November,” he had said. But the fact
was, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval was nowhere in sight.
It would come only 18 months later, in May 2014.
When I asked
him last month why he’d been playing fast and loose with facts, he snapped: “I
have to project! If I don’t show projections who will give me cash?”
“I go and
explore, if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. I know it is somebody else’s
money. We could have saved some, sure, but hindsight is always 20:20."
Meanwhile,
the salary payout for just three co-founders in FY 2013-14 was Rs 9.4 cr, which
amounted to 16 percent of the money raised in that year.
“It was
basically one-man team. On their part, the Board members, none with any domain
expertise, liked to hear good stories,” says the senior sales executive quoted
above.
For
Nandakumar, it’s all in the spirit of entrepreneurship. “I go and explore, if
it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. I know it is somebody else’s money. We could
have saved some, sure, but hindsight is always 20:20. You learn something [in
exploration]. After all, it is risk money,” he quips.
The global
mirage
After years
of globetrotting, Perfint now concludes that “capex sale in the Western market
is nearly impossible”. While ablation as a procedure is under insurance
reimbursement, it requires a device maker to work with many insurers over
several years to gather local data.
“United
States is not a large market for us. Only 20,000 procedures are done across all
hospitals and how much of that will qualify for MAXIO? We will have
publications and advisors from US, even clinical show sites but no commercial
sale,” says Nandakumar.
Unsurprisingly
(by now), the marketing pick-up line four years ago was just the opposite.
At the time
of the FDA approval announcement in May 2014, Guruswamy K, who was heading
sales, said, “Obtaining the 510(K) clearance allows us to start commercial
marketing of MAXIO in the USA. It also makes it easier to scale up in several
other markets globally. We are hoping to achieve Rs 100 crores in revenue this
year.”
In the same
press conference Nandakumar had said, “We will reach Rs 500 crores in a few
years.”
Their
assumptions about Asia market were grossly incorrect, too. The region was not
even performing ablation, they would discover. “And those who are performing
their adoption curve is very steep. Even today, between open surgical and
minimally invasive procedures, it’s the former that wins,” admits Nandakumar.
In how many
countries do you have installations today? I ask.
“We don’t
keep a count.”
“Maybe
10-12,” he says, when I insist.
Overseas
markets no longer hold any promise. Not only capital expenditure is tough, pay
per use has a painfully long recovery period.
So many
things so off the mark. “You’ve got all your estimates wrong. Did you not do
any market research to figure what was needed and how much the users would pay
for it?” I ask.
“No, that
was a mistake. We listened to some physicians’ advice and got on with it,” says
Nandakumar.
Return of
the prodigal son
After years
of missteps, home is finally where Perfint thinks its panacea lies - lower sale
prices but compensated by larger volumes. Under the National Cancer Control
Programme, 75 hospitals in India will now be upgraded. So Perfint plans to plug
its robotic arms in some of those and other government teaching hospitals.
Unfortunately,
that’s once again easier planned than done.
“Senior
doctors think they are Gods; they don’t need technology, their fingers can do
the magic. Junior doctors think real skill development is in learning by hand,
(so) why touch a robotic tool?” says a former clinical-marketing executive who
struggled to get the doctors to use Perfint’s equipment in a few cancer
hospitals, including the Tata Memorial Centre in Mumbai.
Moreover,
resource-constrained government hospitals have to be prudent in their
expenditure -- which means using taxpayers’ money to buy products that are user
friendly and work, instead of being dumped in unsuspecting corners under plastic
covers.
Perfint’s
experience with the government hasn’t been great in the past either. In
December 2013 tenders were floated for six new All India Institutes of Medical
Sciences for CTs with accessories. But just after a year, all accessories were
scrapped and only CTs were taken.
“Our product
was shortlisted and then scrapped. Revenues of Rs 8 crores disappeared in a
stroke,” says Nandakumar, fuming.
But the
reality is Perfint’s technology flies in the face of bundling, where the thumb
rule is that a higher priced product costing, say, Rs.100, is bundled with a
much-lower priced one costing only Rs.5-10. This way a seller can pass it on
after including some markup, say at Rs 120, and make money.
Instead
Perfint is trying to bundle a Rs 1 crore-robotic device with a Rs 1.5 crore-CT.
They’re just too darn expensive.
The core
team is intact, and making some amends. MAXIO is being integrated with an
energy generator so that it becomes a complete therapy system, but that variant
is at least another 18 months away. An ultrasound-based new system has been
under development, for many years though, albeit in Canada. “In a year’s time
it could go into pilot stage assuming we get funded,” reckons Nandakumar.
A cash
crunch has hit the company where it hurts most - funding a large sales force to
drive adoption.
Perfint
earned Rs 18 crore in year ending March 2016 and is “likely to make Rs 55 crore
in FY 2016-17” (how remains a mystery), according to Nandakumar who is back in
the market to raise more funds, and even thinking of
going public. He might hit rough weather.
Slower
growth, after spending what is certainly no little pizza money, is an admission
of a restricted future and hurts valuations. Emails sent on July 27 to its
existing investors, IDG Ventures, Norwest and Accel Partners were not answered
till the time this story was published.
One silver
lining in this saga is a dozen or so journal publications that Perfint has to
its credit, thanks to its multiple overseas clinical associations. At one
point, says a Chennai radiologist, Perfint “roped in some of the best ablation
experts, from Italy, US and Australia”
Looking
back, around 2010-2011 Perfint had a good window of opportunity, if the right
steps were taken. It would have been a good fit for consumables companies which
could create a biz model around the equipment, maybe even giving it free and
making money off accessories.
But
Nandakumar chose not to head down that path. Now, he says, Perfint’s indicator
of success is not revenue, but adoption, something which he ironically ignored
while chasing revenue.
As loopy as
this 10-year journey appears, I asked him if he were to redo Perfint, how would
he do it.
“I’d not do
interventional radiology. And if I were forced into it, I’d not do a CT-based
device, I’d go with ultrasound,” he says.
There you
go, an admission that is several years too late."
Comments
My co-founders and I along with the BoD of Perfint disagree with the tenets of the story. We’re here to stay, and want to serve our customers to the best of our abilities. Any of us would be happy to get on a call and explain further as desired. I am accessible on phone at +91 984 066 4381 and by email at nandu@perfinthealthcare.com
Regards, Nandu
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